tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post3638781489869221555..comments2024-02-29T02:52:55.821-06:00Comments on Muslims Together : Where is the Muslim outrage?Mike Ghousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-41225831106345618082007-12-22T07:27:00.000-06:002007-12-22T07:27:00.000-06:00Thanks for taking out so much time & writing. It i...Thanks for taking out so much time & writing. It is very informative for both Muslims & non-Muslims also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-81098936894532851272007-12-13T00:09:00.000-06:002007-12-13T00:09:00.000-06:00Hello Mike,16:125Invite (all) to the way of thy Lo...Hello Mike,<BR/>16:125<BR/>Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them <BR/>in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best who have strayed from <BR/>His Path and who receive guidance. 2161 2162 <BR/>In this wonderful passage are laid down principles of religious preaching, which are good for all time. But where are the teachers with such qualifications? We must invite all to the way of Allah, and expound His Universal Will; we must do it with wisdom and discretion, meeting people on their own ground and convincing them with illustrations from their own knowledge and experience, which may be very n arrow, or very; wide. Our preaching must be, not dogmatic, not self-regarding, not offensive, but gentle, considerate, and such as would attract their attention . Our manner and our arguments should not be acrimonious, but modeled on the most courteous and the most gracious example, so that the hearer may say; to himself, “This man not dealing merely with dialectics; he is not trying to get a rise out of me; he sincerely expounding the faith that is in him, and his motive is the love of man and the love of AllahMy Crescenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13819586551011795231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-22821838666187328312007-12-09T13:37:00.000-06:002007-12-09T13:37:00.000-06:00A couple of writers here refer to the apathy of th...A couple of writers here refer to the apathy of the silent majority. I doubt that it is apathy so much as it is the fact that most people are struggling to deal with more personal issues of survival, supporting a family, and then overwhelmed, perhaps even numbed by the outrageous nonsense of rioting over cartoons and teddy bears, and the hideous travesties committed in the name of Shari`ah Justice. <BR/><BR/>Then again a huge number of Muslims live in repressive neo-colonial regimes where dissent would invite trouble, or have fled such regimes, and even if they live in western countries where people may demonstrate freely, they have brought from their homelands a gut fear of making themselves visible as political activists -- and again, immigrants are usually the ones who need to work hardest to establish security for their families. <BR/><BR/>For different reasons in different countries Muslims are intimidated into silence and then scolded for not speaking up. <BR/><BR/>God have mercy on us all!Starjackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13336684594171723329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-39279706182009921782007-12-01T23:05:00.000-06:002007-12-01T23:05:00.000-06:00Assalam-o-alaikum, First of all, even if there wa...Assalam-o-alaikum, <BR/> <BR/><BR/>First of all, even if there was an illicit relationship between the woman and a man, the Saudi judges did not have 4 witnesses before them. The fact that the woman's husband has done all the work of bringing it up to the media shows that the husband knew his wife well and trusted her (that, by the way, makes the Saudi version of the story suspect). The woman took all the rape oppression and still did not want to publicize it because many Muslim woman are still greatly oppressed and the so-called unQur'anic Shari’a laws are not very helpful for them either. <BR/><BR/><BR/>There are many flaws in the decision taken by the ignorant and cruel Saudi judges:<BR/><BR/><BR/>1. First, the verse 24:2 CLEARLY prescribes punishment of 100 lashes for BOTH the participating parties and this punishment is only for the consensual sex act (not rape)--that too when the consensual sex is proven by 4 credible witnesses. This consensual sex was never proven by 4 witnesses at all in the case at hand, and thus the REAL Shari'a (the Qur'an) was not followed. Then, what about the guy who was equal partner to the woman's sexual affair? Was he not equally guilty? Why don’t we hear about him in his story at all? Why was he not brought to the court and why punishment due him was not issued to him? Doesn't the Qur’anic verse 24:2 prescribe punishment for BOTH the parties? <BR/><BR/><BR/>2. Second, where is this punishment of “90 lashes” coming from? I do not see “90 lashes” anywhere in the Qur’an, much less increasing to 200 lashes by a very lousy reason of talking to the media about it. Why doesn’t she have the rights to talk to the media about it? Obviously, the irrational and unQur’anic system of Shari’a justice is expected to raise a great deal of alarm in this case. The Saudi mullahs feel very insecure about this hideous system and they do not want the world to know about it. Too bad, the Internet and other remarkable mass media communication has alerted the whole world to this injustice any way—thanks to the commendable courage of woman’s husband who blew the whistle.<BR/><BR/><BR/>3. And here is the worst part—10 months to 9 years of prison time to 7 rapists—seems like a much milder punishment to me. Aren’t they the MAIN culprits in this case?<BR/><BR/><BR/>In sum, many forms of the Shari’a laws of Saudi government are no laws worth the name—they are irrational, and they insult and mock the Qur’anic teachings as well as bring a bad name to Prophet Muhammad’s blessed name. These Saudi judges are not only criminals themselves because they certainly do not know the Qur’anic teachings and therefore have no ability to pass judgments in a court of any law—much less Islamic court.<BR/><BR/><BR/>This is a case of ‘rape of common sense’ more than anything else. <BR/><BR/><BR/>The Shari’a certainly needs a thorough overhaul.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Wassalam,<BR/><BR/>IrfanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05344990548937204472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-81142191212272747262007-12-01T23:02:00.001-06:002007-12-01T23:02:00.001-06:00Blasphemy has to be determined by reason of intent...Blasphemy has to be determined by reason of intent. In this case,<BR/>the British teacher did not commit any blasphemy because she was not<BR/>aware that such a thing could ever be viewed as a blasphemy. Even the<BR/>Qur'an which punishes an oath-breaker with Kaffara, does not prescribe<BR/>kaffara for the oaths taken in ignorance or the oaths take without<BR/>intent or purposefully.<BR/><BR/>So, the lady's act cannot be considered blasphemy. It was a minor<BR/>case blown out of proportion by religious, mindless fanatics. <BR/><BR/>That being said--even the real blasphemy is punishable by God<BR/>alone--not by humans. The Qur'an has dealt with blasphemy a number of<BR/>times and the ONLY advice for the believers is to 'turn away' from<BR/>those who do it. There is no punishment at all in this world--except,<BR/>of course when they create a situation where Muslims have to defend<BR/>themselves.<BR/><BR/>IrfanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05344990548937204472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-62525140800174334162007-12-01T23:02:00.000-06:002007-12-01T23:02:00.000-06:00Blasphemy has to be determined by reason of intent...Blasphemy has to be determined by reason of intent. In this case,<BR/>the British teacher did not commit any blasphemy because she was not<BR/>aware that such a thing could ever be viewed as a blasphemy. Even the<BR/>Qur'an which punishes an oath-breaker with Kaffara, does not prescribe<BR/>kaffara for the oaths taken in ignorance or the oaths take without<BR/>intent or purposefully.<BR/><BR/>So, the lady's act cannot be considered blasphemy. It was a minor<BR/>case blown out of proportion by religious, mindless fanatics. <BR/><BR/>That being said--even the real blasphemy is punishable by God<BR/>alone--not by humans. The Qur'an has dealt with blasphemy a number of<BR/>times and the ONLY advice for the believers is to 'turn away' from<BR/>those who do it. There is no punishment at all in this world--except,<BR/>of course when they create a situation where Muslims have to defend<BR/>themselves.<BR/><BR/>IrfanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05344990548937204472noreply@blogger.com