tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post9058939801726352279..comments2024-02-29T02:52:55.821-06:00Comments on Muslims Together : Aga Khan: 50 years of ImamatMike Ghousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-47905455234055180802012-03-06T08:32:25.177-06:002012-03-06T08:32:25.177-06:00subhhaanallahsubhhaanallahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-21201919664225657982012-03-02T07:29:03.199-06:002012-03-02T07:29:03.199-06:00Dear brother Shakeel
Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatull...Dear brother Shakeel<br />Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu<br /><br /><br />[Shakeel Apr 14, 2008 09:40 PM -- Brother Ghouse, Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu.]<br /><br /><br /><br />i am sorry Shakeel, i had to copy and paste the QUR’ANIC greeting and prayer posted by you earlier. <br /><br /><br />Frankly, I did not think twice about it until my 'meditation' time this morning. <br /><br /><br />The above and the following verses came to mind all at once and suddenly, I was wide awake.<br /><br /><br /><br />73: 5. For we shall charge thee with A WORD OF WEIGHT. <br /> <br />73: 6. LO! THE VIGIL of the night is (a time) when <br /><br />IMPRESSION is more keen and SPEECH more Certain. <br />Pickthal's Quran Translation<br /><br /><br /><br />I had to ask you because you appear to be very intelligent and well versed in the Holy QUR’AN. <br /><br /><br />Perhaps you could shade some light on this matter better than most I have spoken to both at home [Canada] and overseas.<br /><br /><br />1. do you practice the prescribed IBADAH – worship vis-à-vis SLAVERY, specifically - the MEDITATION aspect of it??<br /><br /><br /><br />73: 1. O thou wrapped up in thy raiment! <br /> <br /> <br />73: 2. KEEP VIGIL <br /> the night long, <br /> SAVE A LITTLE –<br /><br /><br /><br /> 73: 3. A half thereof, <br /> or abate a little thereof <br /><br /><br /><br /> 73: 4. Or add (a little) thereto – <br /> AND CHANT THE QUR'AN <br /> IN MEASURE, <br /><br /><br /><br /> 73: 5. For we shall charge thee <br /> WITH A WORD <br /> OF WEIGHT. <br /> <br /><br /><br /> 73: 6. LO! THE VIGIL <br /> OF THE NIGHT IS (a time) <br /><br /><br /> when IMPRESSION is more keen <br /><br /><br /> SPEECH more CERTAIN. <br /> Pickthal's Quran Translation<br /><br /><br /><br />Alhamdulillah if you do, otherwise think about it.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> now, tell us /me when was the QUR’ANIC greeting namely, ‘Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu,’ revealed for the first time ever in the Holy QUR’AN;<br /><br /><br /> that is, before the Holy Prophet [sas] used it as an ‘all encompassing’ greeting / prayer and blessing, simultaneously?<br /><br /><br /> What were the circumstances and DIVINE CONDITIONS under which it was revealed?<br /><br /><br /> do you know what they were?<br /><br /><br /> And do you abide by those DIVINE CONDITIONS, <br /><br /><br /> BEFORE uttering the stupendous HEAVENLY GREETINGS<br /><br /><br /> to another muslim, your family or friends?<br /><br /><br />Alhamdulillah if you do, otherwise think about it.<br /><br /><br /><br />Then please tell us / me what is the meaning of the following? <br /><br /><br />74:30. <br /><br /> Above it are NINETEEN.<br />Pickthal's Quran Translation<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />15:87. <br />• Wa Laqad 'Ātaynāka <br /><br /><br />• Sab`āam Minal-Mathānī – <br />• 7-SEVEN OF THE OFT-REPEATED <br /><br /><br />• Wal-Qur'ānal-`Ažīm<br /><br /><br />• <br />• We have given thee <br /><br /><br />• 7-SEVEN of the oft-repeated <br />• Sab`āan Minal - Mathānī <br /><br />• <br />• and the great QUR'AN <br /> (15:87). <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Please note that although most muslims apply this to Surah 1) Al-Fātiĥah ; because the verse under discussion speaks of <br /><br /><br /><br />1. ‘Sab`āam Minal-Mathānī – <br />2. 7-SEVEN OF THE OFT-REPEATED <br /><br /><br /><br />that application still IS secondary from the QUR’ANIC perspective.<br /><br /><br />Please tell us what is the primary application thereof?<br /><br /><br /><br />And finally have you ever read and applied the following verse in your own lifetime?<br /><br /><br />49:11. <br /> O ye who believe! <br /><br /> LET NOT A FOLK DERIDE A FOLK <br /> WHO MAY BE BETTER THAN THEY (are), <br /><br /><br /> not let women (deride) women <br /> who may be better than they are; <br /><br /><br /><br /> neither defame one another, <br /><br /><br /> nor insult one another by nicknames. <br /><br /><br /> Bad is the name of lewdness after faith--imaan. <br /><br /><br /> And whoso turneth not in repentance, <br /><br /><br /> such are evil-doers.<br /><br />Pickthal's Quran Translation<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Rest assured, every thing mentioned herein was directly related to your earlier questions and anti-ismaili position.<br /><br /><br /><br />this was the QUR'ANIC PERSPECTIVE which was directly related to our Tariqah since its revelation.<br /><br /><br />With Salaam,<br /><br /><br />ALI kenadian,<br />canadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-58420567586832248432012-03-01T22:15:11.376-06:002012-03-01T22:15:11.376-06:00Dear brother Shakeel
Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatul...Dear brother Shakeel <br />Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu<br /><br />I know it’s been 4 years since you raised some issues about ‘His Highness’ Prince Aga Khan, His practice and community, etc.<br /><br /><br />I am ali kenadian, an Ismaili Muslim follower of ‘His Highness’ Prince Aga Khan. <br /><br /><br />Brother Shakeel, you have raised some interesting issues, but have been a little too harsh and judgmental – might I add, without much QUR’ANIC evidence to back up your denunciation of my Imam and faith. <br /><br />That is your right and prerogative. <br /><br />often it is said that ‘ignorance is bliss’ - but it is no excuse to deride another person. Remember, that if you point a finger at someone, only you will point the remaining 4 at yourself. That is the law of nature.<br /><br /><br />WHOSE PATH is Şirāţaal-Mustaqīm?<br /><br /> Sūrat Al-Fātiĥah (THE OPENING)<br /><br />1: 5. Thee we worship; Thee we ask for help. <br /> <br />1: 6. Show us the straight path ---- Şirāţaal-Mustaqīm, <br /> <br />1: 7. The path of those …. Şirāţal-Ladhīna…<br />Pickthal's Quran Translation<br /><br />You probably recite the QUR’ANIC text of this Surah several times in your daily salah, do you?<br /><br /><br /><br />Question<br />1. Now first of, WHOSE PATH is Şirāţaal-Mustaqīm?<br /><br />2. was it the path of Allah? Please prove it from only Sūrat Al-Fātiĥah.<br /><br />3. was it the path of the Holy Prophet [sas]? Please prove it from only Sūrat Al-Fātiĥah.<br /><br />4. According to Sūrat Al-Fātiĥah only Şirāţaal-Mustaqīm was / is NEITHER the path of Allah nor that of the Holy Prophet [sas].<br /><br />5. WHO WERE THEY, who were EXALTED by Allah unto HIMSELF and WORSHIP in the Holy Qur’an & ISLAM?, <br /><br />6. which you like 1 1/2 billion OTHER MUSLIMS acknowledge IT daily in your salah, DO YOU NOT??<br /><br /><br />The path of those …. Şirāţal-Ladhīna… WHO WERE THEY??<br /><br /><br />40:50 <br />They say: Came not your messengers unto you with MANIFEST PROOFS-- Rusulukum Bil-Bayyināti? <br /><br />They say: Yea, verily. They say: Then do ye pray, <br /><br />although the prayer—Du’aa of disbelievers is in vain.<br />^^^^^^<br /><br /><br />'Amara Allāhu Bihi 'An Yūşala <br />ordered Allah Bihi—UNTO HIM be joined<br /><br /><br />2:27<br />Al-Ladhīna Yanquđūna `Ahda Allāhi Min Ba`di Mīthāqihi Wa Yaqţa`ūna Mā 'Amara Allāhu Bihi 'An Yūşala <br /><br />Wa Yufsidūna Fī Al-'Arđi 'Ūlā'ika Hum Al-Khāsirūna (2:27). <br /><br /><br /> Those who break the covenant of Allah after ratifying it, and sever THAT-HE WHO/ WHICH ORDERED ALLAH BIHI—UNTO HIM BE JOINED , <br /><br />and make mischief in the earth: Those are they who are the losers.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />So, my dear brother despite all your piety and faithfulness or whatever, you cannot ever hope to get onto Şirāţaal-Mustaqīm on your own, in your complete life time, period!<br /><br /><br />Saying your mechanized-salah in a parrot-like fashion is one thing and understanding your prayer and what you are saying, is quite another.<br /><br /><br />Do you still believe that our Holy Imam [sa] and his faith and community are on the wrong path? <br /><br /><br />Then please use your intelligence and answer my simple questions which even a grade 12 student can understand and reflect upon. <br /><br />ali kenadian<br />canada<br /><br />march 02, 2012Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-13945966358306400752008-04-20T17:42:00.000-06:002008-04-20T17:42:00.000-06:00FROM MIKE GHOUSE:Dear Anonymous,I am annoyed with ...FROM MIKE GHOUSE:<BR/><BR/>Dear Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I am annoyed with your last line," I doubt this will be printed".<BR/><BR/>If you have read the article, and hopefully a whole lot of it on this blog, you probably would not have judged this blog. <BR/><BR/>You comment answered a question and it needs to be printed.<BR/><BR/>Shakeel has a right to say his view, but he does not represent the majority view of Muslims, who care about others.<BR/><BR/>Kindly read our mission statement and just about every thing with my comments... it about Islam, that I know,which cares for humanity, respects other humans that God has created.Mike Ghousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-32595123319686566852008-04-19T17:50:00.000-06:002008-04-19T17:50:00.000-06:00Dear brother Shakeel,Allah's Prophets, Solomon and...Dear brother Shakeel,<BR/><BR/>Allah's Prophets, Solomon and David were His Royal Highnesses of their time. They were not in competition with Allah and by the same token Aga Khan is not in competition with Allah.<BR/><BR/>The 4 Caliphs were Amirul Momineen of their time. Were they competing with Allah S.W.T. by calling themselves "leaders of the faithful"?<BR/><BR/>Prophet S.A.W. title was Rahemat-tulil-Aalmeen! This is even higher than His Highness! It is very close to God's own title.<BR/><BR/>Aga Khan always stresses the importance of Zikr of Allah and submission to Allah throughout the day. He refers to the Universe and people in it as Allah's creation.<BR/><BR/>Brother, let me give you an example.<BR/><BR/>Say A and B were neighbors. A's family has 4 children and B's family has 11. A's children are well disciplined, respectful to their neighbors, educated, ethical, etc. and follow the dictates of their parents including sharing their wealth with the less privileged ones.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand B's family is also very rich, in fact richer than A's family and owns lots of oil wells but they want to destroy their neighborhood because people do not share their beliefs; they want to amass their wealth and do not wish to share with others, except during Ramadhan. They are not educated because they do not think they need to be.<BR/><BR/>Now, would you still accuse A of being dysfunctional without looking at what makes them so successful under the headship of their Parents? <BR/><BR/>Remember, you have not seen how each family is brought up because you do not care to.<BR/><BR/>I think brother Shakeel, we have to use our Aql (intellect)before judging people. Quoting Qur'an conveniently does not make family A bad and family B good.<BR/><BR/>I can quote you many suras wherein Allah S.W.T. has mandated his people to do good for humanity. Doing good does not make you look as though you are competing with Allah. <BR/><BR/>I challenge you to find one person, a Muslim or a non-Muslim who does for humanity as much as Aga Khan and his community do.<BR/><BR/>I doubt this will be printed, but as usual I always speak my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-17267379078133823482008-04-16T12:42:00.000-06:002008-04-16T12:42:00.000-06:00=================================***** RESPONSE TO...=================================<BR/><BR/>***** RESPONSE TO SHAKEEL *****<BR/><BR/>Shakeel, I am deeply saddened for your inability to see this blog - out of 340 Articles, there are about 6 on HH Aga Khan and you say we are promoting one sect? <BR/><BR/>We are not about a sect, we are about Muslims and Islam. As Muslims we should not push God to the corner and take over his role of judging people. Allah does not like any one to take over his job, or he does not like to share that responsiblity, which he performs on the day of judgement. Let God make those decisions and not you or I or any one. God is the master of the day of Judgment and alone we accept judgments from.<BR/><BR/>Don't you like to see mankind united, then Muslims also United? It won't happen if you don't put in the effort.<BR/><BR/>The good news is only a few, just a few misunderstand the work of moderation and inclusiveness and I pray that you will not be one of those few. <BR/><BR/>I spend my time in uniting people, bringing not only Muslims, but all of God's creation together, it is what God wants us to do. Please refer to the Mission statement on our website www.WorldMuslimCongress.com <BR/><BR/>I invite you to spend your time in building bridges among people of different affiliations, Masha Allah it is rewarding.<BR/><BR/>Mike Ghouse<BR/><BR/>===============================Mike Ghousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-36720636065204245722008-04-16T00:20:00.000-06:002008-04-16T00:20:00.000-06:00Mike,Agha Khan, your Highness, not mine nor a high...Mike,<BR/>Agha Khan, your Highness, not mine nor a highness for Allah - the only High and Mighty, deserving to be praised as such - fortunately represents a sect, only one out of a possible 173. Allah's designs are better than the designs of all the worldly souls put together, that's why even Agha Khan himself chooses to designate himself as the representative of Isma'ilies, not as a representative of the whole world.<BR/>Your democracy, and the hypocritic attempts at reconciliation leaves the vast majority out of your spectrum, but your claim still remains tall!!<BR/>I am fortunate to have learnt through this discussion that you are promoting one sect of Islam (and all religions other than Islam), not Islam.<BR/>Thank you for enlightening me!<BR/>But if We give him a taste of (Our) favours after adversity hath touched him, he is sure to say, "All evil has departed from me:" Behold! he falls into exultation and pride. <BR/>( سورة هود , Hud, Chapter #11, Verse #10)<BR/>One who "falls into exultation and pride" may start calling himself by any name (e.g., His Highness) ... competing with the "exultation and pride" wothy of the God Almighty. <BR/>That's not my ego ... I didn't crown myself with even the lowliest of glory. My God is the one and only.<BR/>"And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for Allah loveth not any arrogant boaster. <BR/>( سورة لقمان , Luqman, Chapter #31, Verse #18)<BR/>Only those believe in Our Signs, who, when they are recited to them, fall down in adoration, and celebrate the praises of their Lord, nor are they (ever) puffed up with pride. <BR/>( سورة السجدة , As-Sajda, Chapter #32, Verse #15)<BR/>To Him belong all (creatures) in the heavens and on earth: Even those who are in His (very) Presence are not too proud to serve Him, nor are they (ever) weary (of His service): <BR/>( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #19)<BR/>Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious (proud and boastful);- <BR/>( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #36)<BR/>No amount of good deeds, recognition, worldly possession, riches or wealth can raise the level of a mere mortal to a "High" that is not reachable by other human beings [Can you become Agha Khan because of your good deeds or is it reserved for his clan?].<BR/>Alhmadolillah-e-Rabbil-Aalameen. Al-Hamd is "The Praise", not just "praise".<BR/>All praise be to God alone. Whenever there is any beauty, any excellence, any perfection-in whatever thing or in whatever shape it may manifest itself- its ultimate source is none other than God Himself. No human beings, angels, Demigods, heavenly bodies-in short, no created beings-are possessed of an innate excellence; where excellence exists, it is a gift from God. Thus, if there is anyone at all whom we ought to adore and worship, to whom we ought to feel indebted and grateful, towards whom we should remain humble and obedient, it is the creator of excellence, rather than its possessor.<BR/>May Allah show you and me the RIGHT PATH, and keep us steadfast on that path only, and save us from the designs of the shayateen and the worldly gods!PMPexperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12560999802303206594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-930191467910069552008-04-15T13:42:00.000-06:002008-04-15T13:42:00.000-06:00Shakeel it is very easy to talk about who is guid...Shakeel it is very easy to talk about who is guided and who is misguided, It is another thing when we fail to use our intellect and fail in our words, deeds and obligation as a Muslim, this intellect does not exist in Vacuum, it constantly requires guidance and wisdom of wise and exemplary men and requires divine understanding of his diverse creation, including Kings, Amirul Momineen or Amirul Muslimin, His Higness, Prince or princes it is their action and deeds and words when they reflect the face of Islam, living your Faith matters and Aga Khan truly represent Islam and is worthy of high mention amongst others, and then, there are people stuck in failed dogma and beliefs operating at lower level of consciousness. So look for God within you, how can there be any competition, with God except the one you have with your Ego and your beliefs. Lighten up!!!Imaginehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11244735010768149665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-88914167462357797352008-04-14T23:52:00.000-06:002008-04-14T23:52:00.000-06:00Brother Ghouse, Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe W...Brother Ghouse, Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu. Simple logic tells us that if you choose one person to lead you, you have left everyone out automatically. Democratic means is to ask people their choice and then include all the choices. You may possibly put a cap and declare that those who get votes above a specific percentage will be considered. By choosing leaders on your own what kind of democracy are you promoting? You claim you are starting with zero, but unfortunately there is a clear conflict between what you claim and what you do. Or, may be I got the democratic definition of "ZERO" as wrong!! You start with some names that are considered as unacceptable to the majority of Muslims, and still you claim you started with ZERO. I never knew democracy meant excluding the majority!!<BR/>If democracy allows using any title, even those that may dwarf the title of prophets, why do you leave out those who proclaim themselves as avatars of God or those who are accepted by great number of people as gods?<BR/>What democracy do you proclaim to be following? <BR/>May Allah keep us strongly glued to the path of His deen and keep us away from the path of those who proclaim themselves as His competitors (the His Highnesses)!PMPexperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12560999802303206594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-2218804044271135082008-04-14T23:40:00.000-06:002008-04-14T23:40:00.000-06:00[[[[[ RESPONSE TO SHAKEEL ]]]]]Brother Shakeel,No ...[[[[[ RESPONSE TO SHAKEEL ]]]]]<BR/><BR/>Brother Shakeel,<BR/><BR/>No leader would ever be acceptable to all that is the beauty of freedom and democracy. I wish you could see things in positive terms. <BR/><BR/>The names suggested (not appointed) represent different groups of Muslims. It is a start. There was no declaration ever made that others are not acceptable, every one is includable. The lists starts with Zero, then you start adding the names.<BR/><BR/>We do have a choice to do nothing, do we not?<BR/><BR/>Using titles is customary; His Highness is used for the Pope, Aga Khan and a few other individuals. There is nothing wrong in using the titles. When you go in front of a Judge, it is customary to address him or her as your honor. When you address your grand father or mother, you use the title – Dada Jaan, Dada Saab (assuming you are a Subcontinentian), Daadi Ma, Daadi Jaan.<BR/><BR/>Prophet Muhammad showed us the way, if people stoned him, he did not get offended, he set us an example of good will and prayed for those miscreants instead. I practice democracy, the most cherished system for humankind, and your note is published and your questions are legitimate. <BR/><BR/>May Allah bless us all with open mindedness to contain the whole universe.<BR/><BR/>Mike GhouseMike Ghousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01647894600183489442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3462242975774901312.post-57205365349031843982008-04-14T22:40:00.000-06:002008-04-14T22:40:00.000-06:00Quote:The other Muslim leaders who could join the ...Quote:<BR/>The other Muslim leaders who could join the Aga Khan are Syedna Burhanuddin, spiritual leader of the Dawoodi Bohra community, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani spiritual leader of the Shia community, Secretary General of Organization of Islamic Nations Prof .Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu and Shaista Amber, President of All India Muslim Womens Personal Law Board. These Men and woman can perhaps speak for the Muslim Community at large as they are the legitimate representatives who have earned their position and are well respected around the globe. It is time for them to step up to create a better world for the human kind, by reducing conflicts and nurturing good will.<BR/>Unquote<BR/>Brother Ghouse, Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahe Wa Barakatahu. Your proclaimed approach to promoting peaceful co-existence and harmony is GREAT. Your claim to be working to reduce conflict between religious sects within Islam sounds so good and inspiring. Alhamdolillah! May Allah show the path of the righteous and keep you away from the path of the misguided! Brother, by declaring [HH Aga Khan, Syedna Burhanuddin, spiritual leader of the Dawoodi Bohra community, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani spiritual leader of the Shia community, Secretary General of Organization of Islamic Nations Prof, Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu and Shaista Amber, President of All India Muslim Womens Personal Law Board] as the ONLY true representatives of Islam, and thus, declaring every other representative (acceptable to the majority of Muslims) as UNTRUE or unworthy, what are you doing? Reducing the conflict!! By declaring yourself to be on the side of few leaders and opposing the ways of all others, but still claiming yourself to be a moderator, what are you branding yourself as? Sorry to say, but this is exactly the definition of a hypocrite. May Allah keep us strongly glued to the path of His deen and keep us away from the path of those who proclaim themselves as His competitors (the His Highnesses)!<BR/>By the way, I am surprised that you don't use the title of "His Highness" for yourself? You are doing such great work after all!<BR/>Please do forgive me if you found my words as offensive in any way, but do show your commitment to promotion of the moderate ways by allowing my comments to be posted.PMPexperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12560999802303206594noreply@blogger.com