Tuesday, February 6, 2007

Saudi's Harass Ahmedi's

Harassment of Ahmedi's in Saudi Arabia

The Saudi Arabian Government is apparently scared of people who practice their faith differently. They are violating all the basic humans rights of individuals to pray. Today it is Ahmediyya, tomorrow, it would be Shia, then it would be a Sunni and then any non-Wahhabis. Wait a minute, then some one who does not belong to their family.....

These self-proclaimed rulers think they are in it for life and they don't spare any one of their impositions. Any regime that becomes unjust, will pay for it sooner or later. Saudi Arabian regime is on the way to self destruct. They are messing with Shia Muslims, and now harassing the Ahmedi's. Shah of Iran thought he was there for eternity, then there was another one who called himself President for Life. Saddam Hussein is gone and there were many more of them once.

When despots push people, people will take it for a short while. Then comes a revolt and an end to un-just rulers. No tyrant has ever survived.

In the interest of stability and continuance of security for Mecca and Medina, which Muslims revere, I hope the Saudi's will start practicing Justice, and quit harassing people. Last year, they stopped a Hindu from praying in his own apartment, and "told" him to quit in the middle of his prayer. That was wrong, and it is dead wrong for them to harass the Ahmadi's.

May we understand what No compulsion means.

We appreciate Mohammad Irtaza for supplementing the Verses from Qur'aan below the letter.

Mike Ghouse

Letter to Saudi King Abdullah bin Abd al-'Aziz Al Sa'ud
Regarding the Religious Persecution of Ahmadis January 24, 2007

Your Majesty,

We write to urge you to put an immediate end to Saudi Arabia's nationwide campaign to round up followers of the Ahmadi faith who have committed no crime. The campaign appears organized and designed to detain and deport all Ahmadis in Saudi Arabia because of their religious belief. Saudi Arabia has so far arrested 56 non-Saudi followers of the Ahmadi faith, including infants and young children, and deported at least 8 to India and Pakistan.

All of those arrested face deportation as soon as a flight becomes available. All but two are legally in the country, mostly long-term residents of Saudi Arabia, and have not been charged with a crime. Many other Ahmadis in Saudi Arabia, a small community of foreign workers in the country primarily from India and Pakistan, are reportedly in hiding or have left the country voluntarily for their own safety.

On Friday, December 29, 2006, more than 50 members of the Saudi religious police together with regular policemen arrested 49 non-Saudi Ahmadis meeting at a privately rented guest house in Jeddah, where they were relaxing after prayers on the Muslim day of rest. On January 5, 6 and 8, 2007, Saudi security forces arrested 5 more foreign Ahmadis in Jeddah and Jubail and attempted to detain the leader of the Saudi Ahmadi chapter in Dammam, but he was out of the country at the time."We met at the rented guest house once or twice a month and had done so for many months," one former detainee in Jeddah said. Many arrested Ahmadis had been working in Saudi Arabia for years, some for more than 20 years. According to one released detainee, after the religious police arrested the group of Ahmadis in Jeddah, they transferred them to the Tamir local police station, where the men and the boys spent one night sleeping under guard in an open veranda. The police did not interrogate them, but made the adults sign forms in Arabic they did not understand, he said. Saudi authorities then moved the adults and children to Buraiman Prison, where they held them along with about 400 convicted criminals for 12 days and provided meager and poor quality food. Their Saudi visa sponsors managed to get all but four released pending their deportation. Among the children were an 8-month-old infant and 13 other children ranging from 2 to 14 years of age.

One of the detainees interviewed by Human Rights Watch said that he pleaded with his sponsor to help arrange the release of his children from the detention center; subsequently, plainclothes policemen moved his children from the adult jail to a Social Observation Home, a juvenile detention center for children between the ages of 12 and 18 accused or convicted of a crime. Officials at the Observation Home, however, sent the children back to the prison, since they had no grounds to hold them.

Saudi authorities never charged the Ahmadis with a crime, but apparently arrested them under orders of Minister of Interior Prince Nayef, because of their faith. According to the former detainee in Jeddah, the only time officials mentioned possible wrongdoing came at the time of the arrest, when a member of the religious police reportedly said, "You need a permit to pray here." He also reported that an officer at the Jeddah police station told the detainees that their arrest was due to their Ahmadi faith.

One Ahmadi, Mr. Abd al-Sami, whom the secret police (intelligence) arrested in Jubail on January 8 and deported to Pakistan on January 18, told Human Rights Watch that his intelligence interrogator demanded to know, "How many people of your group are in other cities and who are they?" The interrogator then questioned him about specific names.Another former detainee in Jeddah told Human Rights Watch that his arresting officers said they had specific orders from Prince Nayef.

According to the former detainee in Jeddah, when the sponsors of some of the detainees tried to obtain their release from prison, officials reportedly told them, "There is an order from Nayef, so don't come to try to release them." Abd al-Sami, the Ahmadi man arrested in Jubail, also said that his interrogator told him straight away that "You must be gone" and that when his employer attempted to get him released, the intelligence official told him "I have a letter from high up in the Ministry [of Interior] saying these people must be deported." International human rights law protects the freedom of religion, including the "freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance" (Article 18, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, UDHR).

The Saudi government's arrest and detention of members of the Ahmadi community solely on the basis of their religion is a grave violation of this right. Saudi government officials assured the United States government in July2006 that the kingdom would respect the right to private worship.

In response, the United States chose not to impose sanctions for Saudi violations of religious freedom. In addition, some of the arrests also violate Saudi Arabia's obligations under the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), which obligates Saudi Arabia to "take all appropriate measures to ensure that the child is protected against all forms of discrimination or punishment on the basis of the status, activities, expressed opinions, or beliefs of the child's parents…" The Convention also requires the detention of juveniles be the last resort (Article 37(b)).

International human rights standards also require the separation of convicted prisoners from unconvicted detainees. "Persons in detention shall be subject to treatment appropriate to their unconvicted status. Accordingly, they shall, whenever possible, be kept separate from imprisoned persons" (Principle 8 of the Body of Principles for the Protection of All Persons under Any Form of Detention or Imprisonment, 1988). The detentions of the Ahmadis without charge or means of appeal ignore basic norms of due process, guaranteed under international human rights law: "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile" (Article 9, UDHR).

"Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him (Article 10, UDHR). By detaining the Ahmadis and their children along in a prison with common criminals Saudi authorities breached their obligations under international law. An Indian diplomat Human Rights Watch spoke to said consular officials had visited Ahmadi detainees of Indian nationality, but Pakistani and Syrian diplomats never looked after their nationals, according to a former detainee. (One Ahmadi detainee is Syrian.) Ahmadis consider themselves a Muslim sect founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the 19th century. However, many Muslims view the Ahmadi faith as heretic due to the elevated status it affords to its founder. Ahmadis view themselves as Muslims, but have been legally declared non-Muslims in certain countries, such as Pakistan. There are approximately 20 million followers of the Ahmadi faith in the world, most in India, Pakistan, Ghana Burkina Faso, and Gambia. Your Majesty, Human Rights Watch calls on your government to end the campaign of religious persecution of Ahmadis.

The government should release all persons detained in this campaign, stop their deportation and readmit those already deported. Saudi Arabia should publicly commit and respect freedom of religion and freedom to peacefully assemble and pray with others, and it should bring those responsible for instigating and participating in religious persecution to justice. We thank you in advance for your attention to this urgent matter.

Sarah Leah Whitson, Executive Director
Middle East & North Africa Division Human Rights Watch

Verses from Qur'aan

Thanks to Mohamad Irtaza for searching the verses.

[1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[10:99] Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers?

Peace be upon you.

The Quran guarantees freedom of choice to all the people on earth:

[2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.

[18:29] Proclaim: "This is the truth from your Lord," then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve....

[6:104] Enlightenments have come to you from your Lord. As for those who can see, they do so for their own good, and those who turn blind, do so to their own detriment. I am not your guardian.

[10:99] Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers?

[2:148] Each of you chooses the direction to follow; you shall race towards righteousness. Wherever you may be, GOD will summon you all. GOD is Omnipotent.[73:19] This is a reminder; whoever wills, let him choose the path to his Lord.

God Almighty never permitted the Prophet to enforce the religion that he preached. Why the Saudi Government ignores the teaching of the Quran and enforce the religion over its citizen?!

[5:92] You shall obey GOD, and you shall obey the messenger, and beware. If you turn away, then know that the sole duty of our messenger is to deliver the message efficiently.

[6:48] We do not send the messengers except as deliverers of good news, as well as warners. Those who believe and reform have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

[24:54] Say, "Obey GOD, and obey the messenger." If they refuse, then he is responsible for his obligations, and you are responsible for your obligations. If you obey him, you will be guided. The sole duty of the messenger is to deliver (the message).

[64:12] You shall obey GOD and you shall obey the messenger. If you turn away, then the sole mission of our messenger is to deliver the message.

Muhammad never assumed his role as a guardian over religious matters. He was simply a preacher of the God's message. Saudi Government ignores the teaching of the Prophet, assumes the role of a guardian over religious matters and employs the religious police!

[33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.[4:80] Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying GOD. As for those who turn away, we did not send you as their guardian.

[6:66] Your people have rejected this, even though it is the truth. Say, "I am not a guardian over you."

[6:104] Enlightenments have come to you from your Lord. As for those who can see, they do so for their own good, and those who turn blind, do so to their own detriment. I am not your guardian.

[6:107] Had GOD willed, they would not have worshiped idols. We did not appoint you as their guardian, nor are you their advocate.

[10:108] Proclaim: "O people, the truth has come to you herein from your Lord. Whoever is guided is guided for his own good. And whoever goes astray, goes astray to his own detriment. I am not a guardian over you."

[11:86] "Whatever GOD provides for you, no matter how small, is far better for you, if you are really believers. I am not a guardian over you."

[42:48] If they turn away, we did not send you as their guardian. Your sole mission is delivering the message. When we shower the human beings with mercy, they become proud, and when adversity afflicts them, as a consequence of their own deeds, the human beings turn into disbelievers.

It was reported that the Saudi media have accused the kingdom's powerful religious police of hampering efforts to rescue 15 girls who died inside a blazing school a couple of years ago. Firemen and witnesses at the scene said that members of the religious police were beating the girls to prevent them from leaving the blazing school. Why? The girls weren't wearing the abaya, or head scarves. After committing such an atrocity it would be expected that the religious police, or "mutaween" would, at the very least, be brought to trial for what they'd done. But that might not happen. Criticism of the feared religious police, who roam the Saudi streets wielding sticks to enforce dress codes and sex segregation and to ensure prayers are performed on time is very rare.

[4:60] Have you noted those who claim that they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, then uphold the unjust laws of their idols? They were commanded to reject such laws. Indeed, it is the devil's wish to lead them far astray.Thank you and may God guide us,

M. Irtaza

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Planned Muslim Response to Qur'an Burning by Pastor Jones on September 11 in Mulberry, Florida

August 19, 2013| Dallas, Texas

Mike Ghouse
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Mirza A Beg
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We as Muslims plan to respond to pastor Terry Jones' planned burning of 3000 copies of Quran on September 11, 2013 in positive terms.

Our response - we will reclaim the standard of behavior practiced by the Prophet concerning “scurrilous and hostile criticism of the Qur’an” (Muhammad Asad Translation Note 31, verse 41:34). It was "To overcome evil with good is good, and to resist evil by evil is evil." It is also strongly enjoined in the Qur’an in the same verse 41:34, “Good and evil deeds are not equal. Repel evil with what is better; then you will see that one who was once your enemy has become your dearest friend.”

God willing Muslims will follow the divine guidance and pray for the restoration of Goodwill, and on that day many Muslim organizations will go on a “blood drive” to save lives and serve humanity with kindness.

We invite fellow Americans of all faiths, races, and ethnicities to join us to rededicate the pledge, “One nation under God”, and to build a cohesive America where no American has to live in apprehension, discomfort or fear of fellow Americans. This event is a substitute for our 10th Annual Unity Day Celebration (www.UnitydayUSA.com) held in Dallas, but now it will be at Mulberry, Florida.

Unwittingly Pastor Jones has done us a favor by invigorating us by his decision to burn nearly 3000 copies Quran on September 11, 2013. Obviously he is not satisfied by the notoriety he garnered by burning one Qur'an last year.

As Muslims and citizens we honor the free speech guaranteed in our constitution. We have no intentions to criticize, condemn or oppose Pastor Terry Jones' freedom of expression. Instead, we will be donating blood and praying for goodness to permeate in our society.

We plan to follow Jesus Christ (pbuh), a revered prophet in Islam as well as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) – that of mitigating the conflicts and nurturing good will for the common good of the society.

We hope, this event and the message will remind Muslims elsewhere in the world as well, that violence is not the way. Muslims, who react violently to senseless provocation, should realize that, violence causes more violence, and besmirches the name of the religion that we hold so dear. We believe that Prophet Muhammad was a mercy to the mankind, and we ought to practice what we believe and preach. We must not insult Islam by the negative reactions of a few.

We can only hope it will bring about a change in the attitude of the followers of Pastor Jones, and in the behavior of those Muslims who reacted violently the last time Pastor sought notoriety – We hope this small step towards a bridge to peaceful coexistence would propel us towards building a cohesive society.

Like most Americans a majority of Muslims quietly go about their own business, but it is time to speak up and take positive action instead of negative reaction. May this message of peace and goodwill reverberate and reach many shores.

Lastly, we appreciate the Citizens of Mulberry, Florida, Honorable Mayor George Hatch, City Commissioners, police and Fire Chiefs for handing this situation very well. This will add a ‘feather of peace’ in the City’s reputation. We hope Mulberry will be a catalyst in showing the way in handling conflict with dignity and peace.

We thank the Media for giving value to the work towards peace rather than conflict.

URL- http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2013/08/planned-muslim-response-to-quran_18.html

Thank you.


The people in Dallas are making an effort to understand and clean their own hearts first, when we are free from bias, it would be easy to share that with others. Islam teaches us in so many ways to "respect the otherness of others" and it is time we find simple practical ways of doing it.