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Inayat Lalani :: Re: Salaam :: Reform :: Interfaith :: Verses :: Christianity
Moderator - All holy books contain text that seems to be in variance with co-existence. However, as I have written without punishment for the crime, things will be chaotic. As far as the carrying out of punishment, we may have to apply the most powerful aspect of God - Kind and merciful. Please feel free to post, but for informational purpose and not to keep a score. As Muslims, our role is to mitigate the conflicts and nurture a culture of goodwill, Islam is peace, each one of us is responsible to carry out this task.

Faiz:: Dallas Pakistanis :: Re: Salaam :: Reform :: Interfaith
Moderator - Ifran, agree and would you mind taking up the research, effects and what process it takes to undo the hudood laws in Pakistan.

Mike:: Launch of new blog - http://quraan-today.blogspot.com
Please take a look at this new blog, launched exclusively to address mis-quotes of verses from Qur'aan like "Slay the idolaters" be "ruthless to infidels" and "on Jews and Christians in particular but other faiths in general. Change begins with a small group of people. Let's join together and start fixing things. Take a look at the material on panels of the blog.

Feel free to write precise comments on each item,
only selected items will be published.
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2007/12/slay-idolaters-95.html
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2007/12/ruthless-to-infidels-4829.html
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2007/12/not-like-jews-or-christians.html
Mike Ghouse
www.WorldMuslimCongress.com
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com

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From: Inayat Lalani
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: MuslimAgenda :: Re: Salaam :: Reform :: Interfaith :: Verses :: Christianity


When people like Michael Savage start excoriating Muslims (as he does daily) and start calling the Quran a most violent and hatre provoking document by taking some verses out of context (and fabricating some 'quotations'), the Muslim audience usually gets tongue tied and is unable to answer the way these charges should be answered, namely, by not only refuting the scurrilous assertions but pointing out some of the most violent, virulent, vitriolic passages in the Bible (and there are literally hundreds of them in both the Old as well as the New Testament). The reasons for this unwillingness to fight fire with fire are well known to us Musims but not to non-Muslims, namely, we are expressly forbidden by the Quran (at the pain of being condemned to eternal hell-fire) to criticize the Torat (the Old Testment) and Injeel (the New Testament) even though Islamic beliefs maintain that those two documents, originally revealed by Allah, have been tampered with.

Now I am willing to risk going to hell in order to systematically point out to the hate mongering in the Bible. will you make room for those in this forum?
Inayat Lalani


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From: "Faiz"
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: Dallas Pakistanis :: Re: Salaam :: Reform :: Interfaith :: Verses :: Christianity ikfirfan

This refers to br. Naseer Tahir's post. The problem is that most of us do not know what the Qur'an--a completely detailed book (6:114) has to say regarding greeting from anybody--Muslim or non-Muslim. This is what the Qur'an says about the ethics of greeting:

<"When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more Courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things." [Al-Qur’an 4:86] >

Thus, when we are greeted—by anyone regardless of creed, ethnicity or skin color—we should return the greetings with equal import or better. That’s what the Qur’an tells us to do. Those ahadith that advise otherwise are certainly false and were put out to discredit and defame the exalted Prophet.

Ibraheem (pbuh) was a Muslim, a Prophet, and a Messenger, was he not? In fact, he is the “father” of all believers according to the Qur’an (22:78). He addressed one of the staunchest disbelievers of his time—his own father, Azur with “salamun alaikum” and even promised to pray for him (19:47). Shouldn’t we follow the Sunnah of Ibraheem (as) in our daily lives?

Ahmadis pray to their Lord the same way other Muslims do, they act upon the same 5 pillars other Muslims do, they believe in the same Qur’an, and yes, they do believe in the Finality of the Prophethood—like all other Muslims. They were accepted Muslim for more than 80 years all over the world--until they were declared non-Muslims in Pakistan for political reasons. If they have given some special religious status to some individual, they have interpreted the Scripture and ahadeeth they see fit. Those differences will always exist among different sects of Islam. I don’t see the reason of treating anyone a pariah on the basis of different intpretations of scriptures and other religious books.

Pakistan government must retract the unQur’anic Hudud laws and all these illogical punishments and jail terms on the basis of how one greets other human beings.

Irfan



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http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2007/12/not-like-jews-or-christians.html
Not like Jews or Christians
An Apology to people of all faiths


If you are a Jew or a Christian and happen to pick a free copy of the Qur'aan and happily open the book to read and understand it, you will go through a pleasant trip but will come to rude shock.

You may start from the first chapter and go to the very first page and read the first line: "In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful", it sounds good, may be you would say Yahweh or Jesus, but Allah is fine, it is another name of the same God.

Then you go to the second verse “All praise is due to God alone, the Sustainer of all the worlds" you may get excited and say “Wow, Praise the lord!” Brother, that's' right, all praise is due to God alone.

The third verse sounds similar to the first one, but the first one is really not first one, that is an introduction for every chapter, Ok the third verse is an integral part of the chapter 1, Fateha, the opening or the beginning which reads 1:3 “The Most Gracious, the Dispenser of Grace,”

So far, it is going good.

What comes now is the verse 1:4 “Lord of the Day of Judgment!” You may say, that sure is interesting, it sounds like the Moslems also believe in the day of reckoning.

You saw all the good and continue to the 5th verse 1:5 “Thee alone do we worship; and unto Thee alone do we turn for aid.” You nod in agreement and feel good that you picked another good book to read.

Here comes the next verse, 1:6 “Guide us the straight way.” – You may or may not ponder but you are eager to finish the first chapter and go to the next line.

1:7 "The Way of those on whom you have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians). You may spill your coffee from the rude shock you get…and offended, close the book and look again on the cover, it said Qur’aan.

Depending on who is in your family, you may call your dear one to come and see this, it is disgusting!

That would be my response too.

Peace be upon you my friends.

Actual verses in Arabic, transliteration and translations along with 16 different translations are presented here below.

For thousands of years, Muslims like Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist, Zoroastrians or others simply recited the verses in Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit, Pali or Avesta without paying attention to what it really meant. It was a ritual, it was needed to be read, you read it and off you went.

A few years ago, one of my best friends gave me the looks of disbelief, when I said the word Islam meant peace. Later on he pointed out to me that the very first page of the Qur’aan he had. I was completely taken back. I knew some thing was not right about that translation, God could not have said that, but I could not deny the fact of what I saw. I had no words and my mind was racing.

Just then, Sheila Musaji had sent me a discovery she has made about the same verse and several others.

It was a rude awakening at least to me, as it would have been to those Jews, Christians, Hindus and others who may have read the verse or sixty other verses that had similar tone.

I became acutely aware of the different translations that were available and also became conscious of the fact that most of the average people do not pay attention to the meaning of the words of the holy book.

Now, with all my humility, I apologize to my Hindu, Christian, Jewish friends in particular and all others in general for not doing my part in becoming aware of the flaws in our own understanding of the holy books.

Please keep your translation, rather mis-translated Qur’aan you have on your hands, but know for sure that, what you have read was not what God meant. Give me a few months to accumulate funds to place all the translations for you to ponder and get the real sense of goodness Qur’aan and all other holy books have.

My recollection of asking a question to my father in law came alive, he pulled the Qur’aan out and pointed the translation, and it was what it was. I did not feel right about it and my heart sunk, the idea of staying away from it grew strongly and I stayed away for a while.

I owe my gratitude to Karen Armstrong, who has helped me develop and do research in understanding Islam, the Prophet and the Qur’aan. I read her book “Mohammad” and that truly changed my relationship with Mohammad (pbuh). He was a divine figure, remote and removed from me when I learned about him, through Armstrong's book, I knew the man I could relate with, some one who was as human as I was and he became my mentor. Thank to her for giving me this bridge.

I have been studying the pluralism models Prophet Muhammad had created for good citizenship and the world of justice and peace. I must also acknowledge the reinforcing I got from hearing Imam Feisal Abdul Raouf and Dr. Assani of Harvard in opening the windows of knowledge for me. Although Imam Zia Shaikh of Irving is much younger than me, his dialogue with me was more like an affectionate father talking to his son giving full value. Dr. Yusuf Zia Kavakci's advise relating to Unity Day USA and a few other issues leave a deep impression of the man's commitment to be just. I appreciate all these affections and I thank God for these people and my friend Bernie Mayoff for sharing his genuine feelings about verse 1:7.

Islam to me is a about striving for justice and working towards creating peaceful societies, it means our words and actions are to reduce conflicts, and foster goodwill among peoples of different faith.

The mission of World Muslim Congress is driven Qur'an, Al-Hujurat, Surah 49:13: "O mankind! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. The noblest of you, in sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Allah Knows and is Aware."

On this Blog http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/ we will continue to address those verses in particular that seem offensive to others and are not.
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1:1 In the name of God, The Most Gracious, The Dispenser of Grace: [1]

Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi

بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمـَنِ الرَّحِيمِ (1:1)
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1:2 All praise is due to God alone, the Sustainer of all the worlds, [2]

Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

الْحَمْدُ للّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (1:2)
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1:3 The Most Gracious, the Dispenser of Grace,

Alrrahmani alrraheemi

الرَّحْمـنِ الرَّحِيمِ (1:3)
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1:4 Lord of the Day of Judgment!

Maliki yawmi alddeeni

مَـالِكِ يَوْمِ الدِّينِ (1:4)
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1:5 Thee alone do we worship; and unto Thee alone do we turn for aid.

Iyyaka naAAbudu waiyyaka nastaAAeenu

إِيَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وإِيَّاكَ نَسْتَعِينُ (1:5)

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1:6 Guide us the straight way.

Ihdina alssirata almustaqeema

اهدِنَــــا الصِّرَاطَ المُستَقِيمَ (1:6)

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1:7 The way of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, [3] not of those who have been condemned [by Thee], nor of those who go astray! [4]

Sirata allatheena anAAamta AAalayhim ghayri almaghdoobi AAalayhim wala alddalleena

صِرَاطَ الَّذِينَ أَنعَمتَ عَلَيهِمْ غَيرِ المَغضُوبِ عَلَيهِمْ وَلاَ الضَّالِّينَ (1:7)

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17 Translations below

Qur’aan – Surah Fatiha. 1:1 – 1:7

‏1:1 سورة الفاتحة بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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Transliteration
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi

Literal: By God's Name, the Merciful, the Merciful/Most Merciful .

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Yusuf Ali
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Pickthal
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Arberry
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate

Shakir
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Sarwar
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

Khalifa
In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Hilali/Khan
In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

H/K/Saheeh
In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.

Malik
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. [1]

QXP
With the Glorious Name of Allah, the Instant and Sustaining Source of all Mercy and Kindness.

Maulana Ali
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Free Minds
In the name of God, the Almighty, the Most Merciful.

Qaribullah
In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Most Merciful

George Sale
In the name of the most merciful God.

JM Rodwell
In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Asad
In the name of God, the most gracious, The dispenser of grace:
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al-Fatihah 001:002
‏1:2 الحمد لله رب العالمين
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Transliteration
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

Literal
The gratitude/thanks/praise to God, the creation's altogether's/(universe's) Lord.

Yusuf Ali
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;

Pickthal
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,

Arberry
Praise belongs to God, the Lord of all Being,

Shakir
All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.

Sarwar
All praise belongs to God, Lord of the Universe,

Khalifa
Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe.

Hilali/Khan
All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the Alameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists).

H/K/Saheeh
[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds

Malik
All praise is for Allah, the ‘Lord’ of the Worlds. [2]

QXP
All Praise is due to Allah, the Sustainer of the Worlds. (The marvels and the profound harmony in the Universe are the living witness that its Creator, Sustainer is truly worthy of all Praise).

Maulana Ali
Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds,

Free Minds
Praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds.

Qaribullah
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,

George Sale
Praise be to God, the Lord of all creatures;

JM Rodwell
PRAISE be to God, Lord of the worlds!

Asad
ALL PRAISE is due to God alone, the Sustainer of all the worlds,

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al-Fatihah 001:003
‏1:3 الرحمن الرحيم

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Transliteration
Alrrahmani alrraheemi

Literal
The merciful, the merciful/most merciful.

Yusuf Ali
Most Gracious, Most Merciful;

Pickthal
The Beneficent, the Merciful.

Arberry
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,

Shakir
The Beneficent, the Merciful.

Sarwar
the Beneficent, the Merciful

Khalifa
Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Hilali/Khan
The Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

H/K/Saheeh
The Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful,

Malik
The Compassionate, the Merciful. [3]

QXP
He is the Instant and Sustaining Source of all Mercy and Kindness (as He showers His Bounties on all creation indiscriminately and without return).

Maulana Ali
The Beneficent, the Merciful,

Free Minds
The Almighty, the Most Merciful.

Qaribullah
the Merciful, the Most Merciful,

George Sale
the most merciful,

JM Rodwell
The compassionate, the merciful!

Asad
the Most Gracious, the Dispenser of Grace,

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al-Fatihah 001:004
‏1:4 مالك يوم الدين
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Transliteration
Maliki yawmi alddeeni

Literal
Owner/possessor (of) the Judgment Day/Resurrection Day .

Yusuf Ali
Master of the Day of Judgment.

Pickthal
Master of the Day of Judgment,

Arberry
the Master of the Day of Doom.

Shakir
Master of the Day of Judgment.

Sarwar
and Master of the Day of Judgment.

Khalifa
Master of the Day of Judgment.

Hilali/Khan
The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)

H/K/Saheeh
Sovereign of the Day of Recompense.

Malik
Master of the Day of Judgment. [4]

QXP
He is the Absolute Owner of the Day when all creation shall have completed their journey of existence, evolution and action to the Ultimate Just outcome. And He is the Supreme Law-Giver to humans to enable them to live by the System of Life that He has ordained. People will be ultimately judged according to how well they tried to live by His Laws.

Maulana Ali
Master of the day of Requital.

Free Minds
Possessor of the Day of Judgment.

Qaribullah
Owner of the Day of Recompense.

George Sale
the king of the day of judgement.

JM Rodwell
King on the day of reckoning!

Asad
Lord of the Day of Judgment!
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al-Fatihah 001:005
‏1:5 اياك نعبد واياك نستعين

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Transliteration
Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu

Literal
(Only) You we worship, and (only) You we seek help from .

Yusuf Ali
Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.

Pickthal
Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help.

Arberry
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succour.

Shakir
Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.

Sarwar
(Lord), You alone We do worship and from You alone we do seek assistance.

Khalifa
You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help.

Hilali/Khan
You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).

H/K/Saheeh
It is You we worship and You we ask for help.

Malik
O’Allah! You Alone we worship and You Alone we call on for help.[5]

QXP
(Realizing these facts), we affirm to obey Your Commands only and ask You to help us as we do that.

Maulana Ali
Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.

Free Minds
You alone we serve, and You alone we seek for help.

Qaribullah
You (alone) we worship; and You (alone) we rely for help.

George Sale
Thee do we worship, and of Thee do we beg assistance.

JM Rodwell
Thee only do we worship, and to Thee do we cry for help.

Asad
Thee alone do we worship; and unto Thee alone do we turn for aid.

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al-Fatihah 001:006
‏1:6 اهدنا الصراط المستقيم
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Transliteration
Ihdina alssirata almustaqeema

Literal
Guide us (to) the way/road, the straight/direct .

Yusuf Ali
Show us the straight way,

Pickthal
Show us the straight path,

Arberry
Guide us in the straight path,

Shakir
Keep us on the right path.

Sarwar
(Lord), guide us to the right path,

Khalifa
Guide us in the right path;

Hilali/Khan
Guide us to the Straight Way

H/K/Saheeh
Guide us to the straight path

Malik
O’Allah! Guide us to The Right Way. [6]

QXP
Guide us to the Straight Path (by providing us with faculties that listen more than hear, observe more than see and analyze more than process).

Maulana Ali
Guide us on the right path,

Free Minds
Guide us to the straight path.

Qaribullah
Guide us to the Straight Path,

George Sale
Direct us in the right way,

JM Rodwell
Guide Thou us on the straight path,

Asad
Guide us the straight way -

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al-Fatihah 001:007
‏1:7 صراط الذين انعمت عليهم غير المغضوب عليهم ولاالضالين

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Transliteration
Sirata allatheena anAAamta AAalayhim ghayri almaghdoobi AAalayhim wala alddalleena

Literal
(The) way/road (of) those You blessed on them, not (those) the angered on them, and nor the misguided.

Yusuf Ali
The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.

Pickthal
The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.

Arberry
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed, not of those against whom Thou art wrathful, nor of those who are astray.

Shakir
The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray.

Sarwar
the path of those to whom You have granted blessings, those who are neither subject to Your anger nor have gone astray

Khalifa
the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers.

Hilali/Khan
The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace , not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).
(This is the one - The words Jews and Christians are not in Arabic text - Hilali/Khan has injected this on his own)

H/K/Saheeh
The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

Malik
The Way of those whom You have favored; not of those who have earned Your wrath, or of those who have lost The Way. [7]

QXP
This has always been the Way of those whom You rewarded. And not the path of those who had to face Your Requital (for blind following and arrogance), and not the path of those who faltered and deviated from the Straight Path.

Maulana Ali
The path of those upon whom Thou has bestowed favours, Not those upon whom wrath is brought down, nor those who go astray.

Free Minds
The path of those whom You have blessed, not those who have incurred the wrath, nor the misguided.

Qaribullah
the Path of those upon whom You have favored, not those upon whom is the anger, nor the astray. (Amen please answer)

George Sale
in the way of those to whom Thou hast been gracious; not of those against whom Thou art incensed, nor of those who go astray.

JM Rodwell
The path of those to whom Thou hast been gracious;-with whom thou art not angry, and who go not astray.

Asad
the way of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, not of those who have been condemned [by Thee], nor of those who go astray!

Mike Ghouse is a Speaker, Thinker and a Writer. He is president of the Foundation for Pluralism and is a frequent guest on talk radio and local television network discussing interfaith, political and civic issues. He is the founding president of World Muslim Congress with a simple theme: Good for Muslims and good for the world. His comments, news analysis and columns can be found on the Websites and Blogs listed at his personal website www.MikeGhouse.net. Mike is a Dallasite for nearly three decades and Carrollton is his home town. He can be reached at MikeGhouse@gmail.com