Friday, February 24, 2012

Ahmadiyya Muslim conversation ends now

Ahmadiyya Muslim conversation ends now

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Thanks to ya'll for the extensive responses on the topic. Most of us agree on certain basics, some don't, and it is time to close with the following notes and move on:

1. Whether the Pakistani right wingers believe Ahmadies are Muslims or not, they need to be civilized to treat their minorities. This bigotry of right wing Pakistani Muslims essentially gives authority to the right wing bigots in USA, Israel, UK, India, South Africa, Australia, France, Sweden and other nations to harass Muslims. The right wing Muslims are too rottenly selfish and don't care about other Muslims who are a minority elsewhere. The shameful thing is the attitude of a "few" Pakistani American Muslim stink.

2. None of us is responsible for other people's beliefs particularly Muslims. God will not ask anyone to bear other people's burden. On the day of Judgment you will be judged for your aamals and not even your kids's spouses' or parents. You stand alone on that day, and you should learn to mind your own business in the matters of faith. (there are several ayaats in quraan about this)

3. Nobody has a bloody right to judge other people's faith and no one has a right to deny other peoples belief. No one owns Islam, a kisi ke baap ka mazhab nahin hai.

4. Pakistan was wrong in making declaration about Ahmadiyya, they did not have that right, neither the Muslim scholars had that right, only Allah has that right. If Pakistan has a right to harass Ahamdies, then US can get away harassing Muslims of all hues. If it is evil to harass Muslims in America, then it is evil to harass anyone anywhere including the Muslim countries and particularly in Pakistan.

We have exhausted the information and it is time to welcome postings similar to these:

" I am a Muslim and I am accountable for my aamals, and I don't believe in harassing any one in Pakistan for their belief."

" I declare that I am not God and have no intention to judge any human being on his or her faith, that is not my business"

" I declare that it is not a Muslim thing to mistreat fellow beings"

" I declare that Prophet Muhammad is Rahmatul Aalameen, a mercy to mankind and I will follow in his footsteps and be a mercy to fellow beings"

I admire all those who have supported the right of fellow Pakistanis in their pursuit of happiness.

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Jazak Allah Khair
Mike Ghouse
Muslims Together


  1. I admire you, Mike Ghouse for this article. What you said is absolutely right. These ignorant Mullahs and their ignorant disciples are playing havoc with Islam. Islam is religion of peace and harmony and these days the extremists of Islam and especially Pakistan are playing political games with a fire. This is done deliberately for political gains as well as religious power struggle. What Pakistanis are not realizing is the negative effect of this on millions of muslims living in Europe and Americas. Unfortunately for the first time in the history of Islam, Mohammad (SAW) name has be tarnished so much in the last 10 years. Such a peaceful man is seen either as a terrorist or war monger by non Muslims these days. A man who was so loving and caring. It is time for the true Muslims to stand up against these bigots otherwise Muslims will suffer tremendously, as we can see from the bans that are being imposed in western world. May Allah bring sense to Muslims to see the seed of the hate that they are sowing that will come to haunt Muslims themselves.

  2. is it possible for a Mullah cult to be cured from the ailment of pride and power ,looks odd but not very difficult to cure this ailment ,only all peace loving people to stand up and say no to Mullahs cult wishes and as we claim to love the holly prophet mohammad(saww) so we obey him in all his commandments ,he loved humanity so much that Allah has to call him will you die for them as why they don`t become believers of Allah the exalted.just convey the message and that is it no more let people decide which way they want to live and let them live unless they creat disorder on earth then of course defend yourself and bring them under controle until there is peace on earth.



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Planned Muslim Response to Qur'an Burning by Pastor Jones on September 11 in Mulberry, Florida

August 19, 2013| Dallas, Texas

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We as Muslims plan to respond to pastor Terry Jones' planned burning of 3000 copies of Quran on September 11, 2013 in positive terms.

Our response - we will reclaim the standard of behavior practiced by the Prophet concerning “scurrilous and hostile criticism of the Qur’an” (Muhammad Asad Translation Note 31, verse 41:34). It was "To overcome evil with good is good, and to resist evil by evil is evil." It is also strongly enjoined in the Qur’an in the same verse 41:34, “Good and evil deeds are not equal. Repel evil with what is better; then you will see that one who was once your enemy has become your dearest friend.”

God willing Muslims will follow the divine guidance and pray for the restoration of Goodwill, and on that day many Muslim organizations will go on a “blood drive” to save lives and serve humanity with kindness.

We invite fellow Americans of all faiths, races, and ethnicities to join us to rededicate the pledge, “One nation under God”, and to build a cohesive America where no American has to live in apprehension, discomfort or fear of fellow Americans. This event is a substitute for our 10th Annual Unity Day Celebration ( held in Dallas, but now it will be at Mulberry, Florida.

Unwittingly Pastor Jones has done us a favor by invigorating us by his decision to burn nearly 3000 copies Quran on September 11, 2013. Obviously he is not satisfied by the notoriety he garnered by burning one Qur'an last year.

As Muslims and citizens we honor the free speech guaranteed in our constitution. We have no intentions to criticize, condemn or oppose Pastor Terry Jones' freedom of expression. Instead, we will be donating blood and praying for goodness to permeate in our society.

We plan to follow Jesus Christ (pbuh), a revered prophet in Islam as well as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) – that of mitigating the conflicts and nurturing good will for the common good of the society.

We hope, this event and the message will remind Muslims elsewhere in the world as well, that violence is not the way. Muslims, who react violently to senseless provocation, should realize that, violence causes more violence, and besmirches the name of the religion that we hold so dear. We believe that Prophet Muhammad was a mercy to the mankind, and we ought to practice what we believe and preach. We must not insult Islam by the negative reactions of a few.

We can only hope it will bring about a change in the attitude of the followers of Pastor Jones, and in the behavior of those Muslims who reacted violently the last time Pastor sought notoriety – We hope this small step towards a bridge to peaceful coexistence would propel us towards building a cohesive society.

Like most Americans a majority of Muslims quietly go about their own business, but it is time to speak up and take positive action instead of negative reaction. May this message of peace and goodwill reverberate and reach many shores.

Lastly, we appreciate the Citizens of Mulberry, Florida, Honorable Mayor George Hatch, City Commissioners, police and Fire Chiefs for handing this situation very well. This will add a ‘feather of peace’ in the City’s reputation. We hope Mulberry will be a catalyst in showing the way in handling conflict with dignity and peace.

We thank the Media for giving value to the work towards peace rather than conflict.


Thank you.


The people in Dallas are making an effort to understand and clean their own hearts first, when we are free from bias, it would be easy to share that with others. Islam teaches us in so many ways to "respect the otherness of others" and it is time we find simple practical ways of doing it.