Friday, February 24, 2012

Ahmadiyya Muslims and solutions.

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As a Muslim, I am ashamed that some among us are not following the message of prophet, nor are we a Rahmat to fellow beings.
We scream at the right wing Christians for making Muslim life difficult in America, we can't build a Mosque, can't do this or that... yet, we have the audacity to do the same to others in Pakistan. If you are a Pakistani American Muslim, I expect you to be honest and fair... scream at the bigotry here but also scream at the bigotry in Pakistan as well.

Let Ahmadiyya Muslims live their lives in peace and Sunni theirs. If we believe that as individuals are responsible for our faith and accountable to Allah only, then we have no business in telling others what to believe. Save the nation from run over by rogues who harass fellow Pakistanis.

Think about it, if Mullah Santorum becomes President, God forbid that, he can make Muslim life miserable and tie it to Pakistan and justify the harassment - and Mullah Santorum can tell us, "hey you Muslim rogues, if you harass your own people, we the Christian majority have a right to harass you the minority Muslims, either you become Christians or get the hell out of here or get killed (Ferdinand did that in 1492). So many Muslims were deported right after 9/11, what did we do? Nothing!

I know Americans are far more civilized than allowing the right wing bigots to dictate to Muslims or other minorities. As Muslims can we act civilized in defending the rights of others? Or, are we not civilized enough?

The least I expect from those who are Anti-Ahmadiyya is to drop the bigotry, particularly if they are Americans Pakistani Muslims, and stand for the rights of others in Pakistan.

The evil persists in the world, not because of evil men, but because good men remain silent or turn the other way.

Those who say, why take up this issue? The answer is simple, if we don't like the way some of those evil men are treating Muslims in America, then we need to clean ourselves, rid of our hypocrisy and dump our bigotry and speak up for the rights of others.

That is what a Muslim does, stand up for justice of every human; a core value of Islam.
Mike Ghouse committed to building cohesive societies. Muslims together, we can make it happen, where no fellow human is threatened, harassed or anxious. Islam is peace and let's act peace.
In the matters of faith, no one can ever prove the other wrong, because it is faith, something you believe. I am looking for us to learn to respect the otherness of others and accept the God given belief to each one of the 1.6 billion Muslims. No one but Allah judges what we believe and no one has business in judging others for what they believe.

Thanks Allah for guiding me to stand up for every one, it is not just Ahmadiyya, it is every one from Atheist to Zoroastrian and every one in between including Shia, Bohra, Sunni, Sufi, Ismaili and others.   Visit the developing in progress site...
--- In, Iftekhar Alavi <xalavi@...> wrote:
> My Dear Ghous, you are trying your best to prove that Ahmadies are right in their claim and are true Muslim. Well it is your belief and I have no comments on it, but your efforts to bring both on one path is fruitless. They are poles apart and can never ever be on one grid.  As written in quran " your deen is your deen and my deen is my deen". So let us not waste time on it. I have read ahmadies and have my own feelings about them . It is clearly writtten in Quran that Huzoor sallah O Alaihe wasallam the last prophet and let their be no doubt about it. Mirza Ghulam Muhammad,s saying that those who do not believe in him are kafir, so I let myself be kafir but never ever will be follower of him.  Any one praising Queen Victoria as benificery of Muslims can never ever be a real Muslim what to say calling him Prophet.    i can write much more but do want to waste my time on illogical, useless and idiotic discussion.  Iftekhar Alavi

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> From: MIKEGHOUSE@...
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:56:05 -0500
> Subject: Dallas Pakistanis :: Re: Ahmadiyya Muslims | 10 responses in one email

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  1. Ahmadiyyat in the eyes of Javed Ahmad Ghamidi sahib - he and I speak the same language
    Learn to respect the otherness of other... my take is similar.

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    Ahmadiyya Important Questions Answers by Javed Ahmad Ghamdi -
    Where is Ahmadiyya Response?

    OMG, every word he has said I have written



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Planned Muslim Response to Qur'an Burning by Pastor Jones on September 11 in Mulberry, Florida

August 19, 2013| Dallas, Texas

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We as Muslims plan to respond to pastor Terry Jones' planned burning of 3000 copies of Quran on September 11, 2013 in positive terms.

Our response - we will reclaim the standard of behavior practiced by the Prophet concerning “scurrilous and hostile criticism of the Qur’an” (Muhammad Asad Translation Note 31, verse 41:34). It was "To overcome evil with good is good, and to resist evil by evil is evil." It is also strongly enjoined in the Qur’an in the same verse 41:34, “Good and evil deeds are not equal. Repel evil with what is better; then you will see that one who was once your enemy has become your dearest friend.”

God willing Muslims will follow the divine guidance and pray for the restoration of Goodwill, and on that day many Muslim organizations will go on a “blood drive” to save lives and serve humanity with kindness.

We invite fellow Americans of all faiths, races, and ethnicities to join us to rededicate the pledge, “One nation under God”, and to build a cohesive America where no American has to live in apprehension, discomfort or fear of fellow Americans. This event is a substitute for our 10th Annual Unity Day Celebration ( held in Dallas, but now it will be at Mulberry, Florida.

Unwittingly Pastor Jones has done us a favor by invigorating us by his decision to burn nearly 3000 copies Quran on September 11, 2013. Obviously he is not satisfied by the notoriety he garnered by burning one Qur'an last year.

As Muslims and citizens we honor the free speech guaranteed in our constitution. We have no intentions to criticize, condemn or oppose Pastor Terry Jones' freedom of expression. Instead, we will be donating blood and praying for goodness to permeate in our society.

We plan to follow Jesus Christ (pbuh), a revered prophet in Islam as well as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) – that of mitigating the conflicts and nurturing good will for the common good of the society.

We hope, this event and the message will remind Muslims elsewhere in the world as well, that violence is not the way. Muslims, who react violently to senseless provocation, should realize that, violence causes more violence, and besmirches the name of the religion that we hold so dear. We believe that Prophet Muhammad was a mercy to the mankind, and we ought to practice what we believe and preach. We must not insult Islam by the negative reactions of a few.

We can only hope it will bring about a change in the attitude of the followers of Pastor Jones, and in the behavior of those Muslims who reacted violently the last time Pastor sought notoriety – We hope this small step towards a bridge to peaceful coexistence would propel us towards building a cohesive society.

Like most Americans a majority of Muslims quietly go about their own business, but it is time to speak up and take positive action instead of negative reaction. May this message of peace and goodwill reverberate and reach many shores.

Lastly, we appreciate the Citizens of Mulberry, Florida, Honorable Mayor George Hatch, City Commissioners, police and Fire Chiefs for handing this situation very well. This will add a ‘feather of peace’ in the City’s reputation. We hope Mulberry will be a catalyst in showing the way in handling conflict with dignity and peace.

We thank the Media for giving value to the work towards peace rather than conflict.


Thank you.


The people in Dallas are making an effort to understand and clean their own hearts first, when we are free from bias, it would be easy to share that with others. Islam teaches us in so many ways to "respect the otherness of others" and it is time we find simple practical ways of doing it.